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Now Justin's home.

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We're going to make time stand still

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after midnight and I'm watching the wall.

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Sometimes I feel so uptight. I just can't sleep at all.

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Every day doing the same old thing. We're losing time.

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The weekend comes. We got to have some fun and rewind.

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These are the days of thunder. We're going to make time stand still. We

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got to feel the hunger hanging over the edge just to taste the thrill.

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I feel the rope tightening, choking off our air.

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We need to grab some lightning. Friday's almost here.

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Caught in a web. We need to cut this thread we're hanging by.

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Where is it said you have to be half dead to survive?

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These are the days of thunder. We're going to make time stand still. We

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got to feel the hunger hanging over the edge just to taste the thrill.

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These are the days of thunder. We're going to make time stand still. We

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got to feel the hunger. Hanging over the edge just to taste the thrill. These are

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the days of thunder. We're going to make time stand still. We

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got to feel the hunger hanging over the edes to taste the thrill.

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These are the days of thunder.

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There we go. So, it is time. Let's uh roll this

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almost. It's episode three of WP Plugins A to Zed Unplug.

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Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for WordPress plugins A to Zed, not Z.

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And today I have a new plug-in reviews, some news, tips, plug-in extras, and more coming up on WP Plugins or Plug-in

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Pulse. WP Plugins A to Zed Unplugged.

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WordPress, the king of content management systems, powering the web. With over 80,000 plugins to choose from,

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how do you sort the junk from the gems? Welcome to WP Plugins A to Zed, where

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we've been keeping the pulse of WordPress alive for over 16 incredible years. Join us every week for an

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unrehearsed real talk breakdowns of the latest and greatest plugins, developer, and community member interviews. Some

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weeks, Amber and I team up to dig in. Others, I'm flying solo, unpacking WordPress news, demoing a standout

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plugin, or sharing tips to power up your site. No scripts, no pluff, just the

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good stuff from A to Z. So, plug in and let's get rolling.

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Well, good morning, good afternoon, or good evening, wherever you happen to be hiding out there on the globe today. Coming to you direct from the brewery

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overlooking beautiful southern Vancouver Island. I'm John Oallin, all by myself

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today. My daughter Amber, who's usually on the show with me for this show, she got married over the weekend, and she's

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she's skied daddled out with her uh new hubby to go on a honeymoon. Well, you

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know, I guess they got to go do that after everything. They were pretty burned out after all the effort of the wedding, but it was a great wedding. And

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for those that might be interested, you can catch it all at lenoverall.com.

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Uh up there for the world to see. I thought it was lots of fun. Proud daddy here. like to see that she's doing well

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and uh all of that great time. So, she's got some time off to go enjoy her new

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husband. Don't she'll be back in two weeks time and we will get back to working real hard. All right. What am I

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doing? I've got a show and we're going to see how long we can keep it going and it will be rather fun and entertaining

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at times. and we're just going to talk of some things

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that are going to take us through a couple of different paths. I'm going to showcase a plug-in live and uh talk

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about a couple of things that went down in the WordPress world over the last week and or so.

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First thing up, we're going to have a little discussion on

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Bing. Please turn your camera on. Camera's on. Oh, yeah. I haven't I

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haven't changed the image. Find me. There we transition to me. How's that?

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It's better. Oh, I've tried to trans time.

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I have to do things differently because I'm doing it solo here.

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All right. So, what have we got? First up, there was a very interesting

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discussion started by Kevin Gary, who came to my attention back in last spring

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when he had that one big long show. I don't remember the fellow's name right

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now, but uh talking about nobody that you should not build a website for

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$5,000 or less than $5,000, which I thought was an interesting concept. He's

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come in with a whole new aspect and that is this here and

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he was spouting off about low code no code era is dunzo

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and what he was talking about for contents he was context he was talking about three groups of people who work on

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websites or have websites the lay person with very little patience for building a

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website the lay people beginners intermediates who have a lot of time and patience and desire to get through with

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learning and uh experienced pros who use low code no code vibe tools and

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simplistic page builders and oh no he goes low code no code vibe tools and simplistic page builders fail each of

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these groups in different ways we'll cover this one out his his in

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group one he says the group thinks it's easy tools will help them but they really have no time and patience and give up quickly well I kind of agree

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with him there. I find that regularly with clients that come to me, they can do it myself and they get into it and

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they find out it's actually work to use those tools and

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they can't be helped. You're right. Group two, he's saying these ones will push through and spend countless hours

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learning proprietary, no code, low code, vibe code, UI, and actually be able to build stuff eventually. But it comes

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with a massive price tag because the same time could have been spent learning actual skills that are transferable to

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any number of pro interfaces. Instead, they have tons of hours invested, relatively basic, proprietary

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that got a bit of a point there in that uh you can learn the basic skills or

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learn the skills where you can jump from tool to tool to tool, whichever one happens to uh work best with your brain.

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I've been bouncing around different tools over the years myself. And um as final one, experienced pros, a

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group intensely frustrated by the limitations and inherent in no code, low code tools, jump ship almost

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immediately. Yes and no. There's a ton of experienced pros out there that use these low code

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tools because it saves them a ton of time. they can still build just as high

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quality stuff. And of course, he's talking about pushing his Etch C most of the time is where he's working with this

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one here. And in the interview I did last week with

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folks, I I have I have name I have name issues. Easily pop back up here. pop in here

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with James Webb. There we go. James Webb, the the interview I did last week, we got into talking about the Etch uh

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product because he really loves it and I've only glanced at it, but he did help

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me understand what Etch is and that Etch from his perspective and after I looked

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at it again, yeah, he's kind of right. It's kind of like Dreamweaver or WordPress. And for those of us that

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started in the Dreamweaver era, well, that was one of the tools we used to make our lives a whole lot easier

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because we could develop something and it would give us a visual output at the same time we're looking

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which is very helpful. These days I build in Elementor which gives me a pure visual element and if I need the code I

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can go and dig into the code. All right. So anyway, Kevin goes on uh

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saying the industry spent 10 years trying to engineer low code, no code tools, been essentially an abject

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failure. Well, what he's done,

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I can't say it's low, it's low code. It's a high code high code tool. Um

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and then he's like the PE group group two will completely disagree with it. of course. Um, and his advice, anyone wants

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to persist in this industry, take your medicine, learn to acquire real school skills, use real tools, the AI era has

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no use for lowskilled workers. Well, he's right there. Um, from what I've

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seen with AI and those that uh have been using AI and um

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the AI stuff, uh, if you don't have any skills and you use

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AI to build that happened in the very beginning of this year, I saw it

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saw it a couple of times. Hey, I built this wonderful cool app. And then a little while later, the guy comes back

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and goes, "Oh my god, I got this great bill for my API key uh usage because I forgot to uh I didn't know about

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protecting the API key." That's the problem. If you don't understand, the AI

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will build it in the simplest way possible. It's like going back to the early years internet when code was first

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created. It wasn't as secure as it is now because it didn't have

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it was way easier until all of the scammers, hackers, and the evildoers for

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lack of better terms for them all. All of those showed up and started screwing with the system and uh messing with it.

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security is a real pain in the ass to get anything done. That's the way it works.

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Now, we'll pop in here with a couple of comments from different people. We've got a whole another thread based upon

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this thread that came from Andrew Hoyer. We'll be popping into that, but I just want to see a couple of things here.

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One, Matt Mullen popped in on him and said, "Except WordPress itself is a no code, low code, and massively

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successful." He's mostly right there. It don't have to. If you use WordPress at

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its basic level, it doesn't require any coding. But I kind of think that Kevin here is

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is getting beyond the point of all the people who need websites. And there are

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ton tons of businesses that need websites that can't spend the five grand. They need to be somewhere around

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a one to $4,000 area. And they're basic they're building basic websites to put

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their business out there so that they can be found a little not depend upon all the social media which is constantly

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changing their algorithms and everything else where businesses it still happens to these people build up a business on

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Facebook marketplace or somewhere else and they do something that pisses off the people who run it say the wrong

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thing and boom their whole business is wiped out. they've been taken down because they said something that someone

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didn't like. Still happens. Um, also with uh I haven't seen one happen in a

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while, but there have been numerous social media companies that get really

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big. People start to build on them and then the company goes, "You know what? We're folding up shop. We're done. We don't have enough money. We're not

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making enough money with this. We're done. Bye-bye. You got 30 days to collect your money." Actually, one

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occurred recently. It wasn't social media. It was another services or software. It was some sort of online tax

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account and they closed up shop after years of running. People only had

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x amount of time to get their data off there.

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Let's see where we got here. And of course, Gary comes back. He doesn't know a single person who could

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come in off the street and build a WordPress website without suffering through an agonizing learning curve.

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Well, that that's pretty much true. If you come in straight off the street cold, you'd have a tough time doing it.

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Nowhere near. This is one of the reasons why we have the rise of u Shopify and

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Wix and others because people can come in off the street and all drag and drop

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and plug and play and they end up with websites that aren't nearly as bad as

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the old um Geio Cities, but they're pretty close. No, Gio Cities was the

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most famous one for that one. Just the Geio Cities days, the cool one.

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See how we're going here. All right. Um, so this the conversation continued

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for quite some time back and forth here.

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There was a nice uh comment here from general

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generalist generalist Sam and he was going well this isn't true. The statement of no code low code tools

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don't actually serve anyone reeks a bias and I get it especially coming from a developer perspective but you need to

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look beyond the WordPress bubbles. Tools like framer web flow are growing fast.

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Yeah, I heard about heard that name a couple of times. So there's these tools all exist in

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numerous ways. And what I think they don't take into consideration here is

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they don't consider the different person's mindset or how different brains

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can latch on to something to build the same thing. I mean for every problem you

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have on the internet you want to solve there's at least a dozen ways to solve that problem and come at it from

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multiple angles and because different people see a different path like climbing to the top of a mountain

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there's path to the top of the mountain some are just harder harder than others and some are wellbeaten paths to the top

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of the mountain so you know some some of them you have to come up the sheer side

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of it but anyway what else do we got here. Let's see what else is uh poking around

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in this one here. Um the was James Webb. We talked about

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uh theme stuff in

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divy. That was one. But I keep hearing these new things about Divvy. So, let's pop into the what

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led me to this thread originally was Angie Hoyer's uh uh and he was he was

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kicking out to web WordPress devs, weigh in, check out the quoted post and thread. What do you think? Developers

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and agencies that use any number of page editors of no code at risk of being replaced. I think that was something

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else that uh was said in uh Gary's post there. And this is the big one is that

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the discussion went off this way with all these no code tools. Are you going

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to be replaced as a developer? This is where the thread went here. And no,

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absolutely not. I mean, you can look at everything that has occurred in WordPress over Well, WordPress is now

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21, but I've been working with it now for 17

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years. No, we're they've had a lot of changes,

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a lot of new tools, a lot of easy builders come and go. Um, some of them

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have managed to stick and become better and better. A lot of people have abandoned it to go off to other places,

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but many of them come back to WordPress. Biggest reason why is

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it's a low point of entry for WordPress. It's a very low point of entry far as

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cost go. And that meaning in that aspect there, it's for those that have time on

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their hands and not a lot of money. If you have time and not a lot of money,

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WordPress is the best place to start building a website for your business. Or

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if you're looking to build a business and have a lot of time and no money, WordPress is an excellent place to build

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a business once you find your it.

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But what that allows is for those that are building a website for say their business, we're going to go with the

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with client version of WordPress. And

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I've I've had a few businesses that have become clients of mine. They started out doing it themselves and they used

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WordPress to do it and that allowed them to get started. They built fast sites

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kind of ugly, little problems, little problematic here, but they managed to get it up and keep it going. And

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eventually as their business grows, they realize that they don't want to do their website anymore. They don't have time to

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do it. All they want to do is make sure it's kept up to date. Maybe they want to improve it with a more professional

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design to match their business as it's growing. Professionalism. So they end up, you know, out to developers to do

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this. They find themselves a developer through recommendations or online or

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and so that's what's going to happen. And this will continue to happen along that line. It will never replace the

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developers. They will always be there at various levels. There's always going to be developers that produce the $500

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websites and there's always going to be developers that produce a what do they charge for

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big ones I heard that millions of dollars to build out a web. So, and still on WordPress.

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WordPress scales depending on what you need. Now granted, as you scale, you

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might have to scale up from the shared hosting onto your VPN hosting onto your

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own server. That makes it even better. So you you'll as you scale, you scale.

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Now, one of the things that I saw through all this articles in here, there

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was a bit of discussion came back in about businesses not needing a website

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and that they can live with social media. Well, that's not true at all. And um

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and what that does is people do need a web presence aside from

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Google Places, Facebook Marketplace, Facebook or Twitter or others that can

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help you find some people, but it won't help you find enough. If you have your

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own website, you now have what used to be a yellow pages ad. This is the one

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argument I have to give some businesses, especially if they know about the yellow pages because well, many people don't

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know about the pages now from the very few out there that still have a couple of yellow page books hanging. I remember

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when they used to be so thick you use them for booster seat, small kids to table. Last time I saw one, it was

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thinner than a uh weekend comic book. So they they just they yellow pages, they

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really screwed up at the beginning of the internet. But that's a whole another rabbit hole to go down. But I had a

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business back in the 90s, automotive shop, and I had to buy a yellow page ad

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eight page ad used to cost me $400 a month, some ridiculous sum for

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the small smallalish yellow page ad, you know, to have a decent, you know, you

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got a free listing, but your name was just listed. You need ad to stand out. And that's kind of a good comparison

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for Google Places, Facebook. They're they're like they're like free listings in the yellow pages and people have to

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scroll through them or go use them to find you. Whereas your website is your

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big yellow page ad. And back in the day you budgeted in anywhere from $200 to

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$1,000 a month depending on how big of an ad you wanted into your monthly marketing budget. This is what a lot of

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businesses have lost in their building of a business is they don't put this into

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their marketing budget for managing their website. A website can cost you as little as, you know,

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15 bucks a month in hosting, 24 bucks for a domain name, and uh whatever time

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you put into your own website. But if you want it professionally done, you got to hire a professional, and they can run

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you as much as 75 bucks a month for upkeep, maintenance, and SEO. Actually, SEO costs way more than 70 a month. But

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the point being is you need a professional help you get beyond the basics and let you have more time than

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money. That's always a tough one when you're starting out with a business.

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Let's go with a summary from uh Andrew's post and

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his summary. The summary on this is he's quoting from uh Kevin's post who argued low code no

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code era is over. It's not. It's never it's not going away. It's going to be here for quite some time to go.

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always be new tools that people will be able to use.

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And he's predicting that uh tools such as simplistic page builders will replace in

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the AI era. Well, we're already seeing the attempts at AI to replace those

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tools and those attempts at AI replacing those tools are not

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overly effective and they are going to create problems down the road. I'm looking forward to the day when all of

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the AI mess and they have to hire developers like us to come in and clean

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up that mess, which is what's always enjoyable when people do this.

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outdated models, PHP themes are at a higher risk. AI and page builders like Elementor will thrive. Balancing pro

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features with ease for edit. Well, that is one thing that Elementor is doing well and Elementor is

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bringing out a new type of editor they've been working on in beta. I've

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babbling in this particular zone here. So, where I'm going to go now,

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see where I'm at here. I always put them in a nice order until

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I look at them. And of course, this weekend was a absolute utter chaos.

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as the wedding went on. It was storming, raining. It was just a it was a rough

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weekend. So, I didn't have time to finish all my notes till this morning for the show. All right, here's one

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thing. U some news bites, couple of news bites for this week. Now, I've got a

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news bite here from Mullen WG doing an interview for

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Search Engine Journal. And in this Q&A session at uh Word Camp

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Canada, um Mullerweg discussed strategies for protecting the platform's open-source ethos from profit driven

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companies that may not contribute back to the community. And my big problem

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with this sort of thing is that everybody in the WordPress community is

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profit driven in some way, shape, or form. uh unless they're well even pure

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information people start ads on there. Everyone's profit driven in one way, shape or form. They're profit driven for

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cash or they're profit profit driven for recognition or they're profit driven for something. But at any rate, thing is is

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he was outlining ways to incentivize positive behavior, including enforcing

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GPL compliance, which isn't overly hard to enforce. And you got to remember

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that's a it's so vague the GPL in that you know

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have the companies out there that buy up the pro GPL licenses strip out the code that

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requires the license and then they resell them which to me is absolutely wrong but that's about ethics not the

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license boils down to the ethics for license

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it's always a problem and Today's you know he's talking about

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voting with your wallet by supporting ethical companies and discussion

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highlighted tensions in the WordPress ecosystem balancing community values commercial motivations suggesting

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proactive measures like certifications to promote good actors. Well, who defines a good actor? You know who

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defines who's doing the right thing? Well, whoever is in control of the switches there at word.org or defines it

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um as I'm a I'm a perfect example of that myself in that I am not welcome on

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the word or website took away all my credentials and hoping

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to go away so I've stayed away from them years but I'm still doing lots of good

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things in the community I still believe in this software I still believe there's

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the ability to make a living for all kinds of people

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in here and you don't have to be involved into the WordPress community of

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the WordPress.org community. You can be involved in the other aspects of the WordPress community podcast for one.

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It's been going now for 16 years and once upon a time I used to take the

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reviews and I used to publish them over at.org or which is why I got banned

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because I used to put my reviews there and I used to mention in a review, hey, I reviewed your show, your plugin on my

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show. They didn't like that much advertising. I guess that's one of the things that annoyed me most about this.

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It's like, well, wouldn't they like to know everything I said instead of just a

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little snippet here about how we showcased it? But no, they at any rate,

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that's what they do. They decide who is who is contributing the most based upon

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how much money you put in there. And they also I haven't looked into the framework but I guess that contribute

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five the five for five or something like that is based upon certain types of

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which shares the news and promotes and showcases how easy and good WordPress

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is. One of my big reasons for WordPress is because it helps you maintain control of all of your data.

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See? Yeah, we just lost a thread on that one, but that's okay.

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Coffee. That's what it is. We need more coffee.

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We're blending the beans today from Kicking Horse Coffee. The jolly ass coffee and the smart ass cop

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between the two asses. It should make a hole. All right, let's see what we've got going on here.

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So, this is an interesting article. It does have a It does have um some of

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Matt's spiciest comments from last year when he called out WP Engine as a bad

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actor specifically, but he called them. He actually used those ter managed to

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capture that. So, we've got a lot going on in this area here and we'll see what

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happens. And of course, there's been been some action in the uh in the lawsuit between

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between WordPress and WP Engine that's been going on. Uh they added in a couple of things that this week. So, you'll

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have to just go find the news. Thinking of finding that news, I've got something that everyone might enjoy. I don't know

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how I tripped across it. Probably through. But, um it's called Feedland

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wp.feedland.org. and they have the latest up tothem

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minutee news feeds from numerous places so you can always find whatever is

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happening in like this one here was loaded up a little while ago load they

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got WP Minute um search engine journal open channels FM WP Mayor Gutenberg

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times WordPress diver uh Dave verse feedber

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times um WordPress Matt Mullen wake feed the iconic feed and coming to iconic

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here in just a few and more. There's just a lot of really great things in

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here and it's a really excellent way to catch up and see what happens. The last one there.

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There it is. Okay. So, it's still the same feed. All right. The feed hasn't been updated yet. But anyway, go check out this feed for some news. You're

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smart and jolly today. You bet. Feel

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free to comment, people. I'm always up for comments to help change the thread of where this is going. We got five

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people watching. Come on. Lots and lots of comments. How you going, Hemmedian? Nice to see

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you in here. Sorry Amber's not here. She's off on her honeymoon. Those of you that didn't catch the

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beginning of the show, reason I'm doing this one alone this week is because Amber's gone on her honeymoon with her

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new hubby. They got married over the week. All right.

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All right. We're going to dive now into a new plugin and I'll showcase that

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plugin here. I've already loaded it up on my dev site, but everyone knows how to install a plugin, so we don't need to

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explain that. Let's go talk in on this. Now, this is from Iconic Nick. Icon

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Nick. I IONIC. I've been calling him Iconic Nick. Iconic. That's it. Iconic. He's got

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Iconic. I've got it. All right. He built a plugin to curate WordPress plugins and

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suggest that you use it and I think you should probably use it too if you're

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looking for some of those hidden gems. He's got a really great thing, a really great post here on it. Um, talking about

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the 60,000 plug-in problem. Well, that's only the ones that are listed at

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wordpress.org. That doesn't include the ones that are listed in numerous other

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places across the web. My guess is we're roughly over 120 PL, thousand plug

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for WordPress. Some are good, some are bad, some are scary as hell, some are fantastic, and some have claimed the

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crown jewels. And because of the claiming of the crown jewels, it's near impossible to find the others. So at any

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rate what he did he built a plugin called hidden gems and he also built

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another plugin called plug-in curator. Now I haven't tested his plug-in curator

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plugin. And what is plug-in curator one? We'll talk about that one real real quickly. What it does is when you load

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it up, it allows you to create your own customized JSON file for plugins that

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you think your clients should see when they're working on their WordPress

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website installed plugins, recommending the ones you think they should load up.

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The way he's got this plug-in designed, and I was thinking about it initially, I saw somebody made a comment and say,

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"Hey, can you make it so that JSON file is local?" but he's got the files so that it's remote to the plugin. And I

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thought, well, it could, but then that would take away from what you're going to do. What you as a agency or web

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hosting provider to providing hosting to multiple WordPress websites, you can have this installed on every version of

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WordPress that gets installed on your servers. And with your own JSON file,

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you can update and change file that is always fed into people. Let's go take a

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quick look at that one real. Now, that one there, it's available over at um GitHub. Links will be in the show

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notes when the show notes are public. And this one here is you can download

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the the files from GitHub, install them up there. He's got a really good readme file, tells you how to use it, and tells

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you how to build the JSON file. from his post which you can find in

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here. He's got a link to a his own customized version of the JSON file.

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Here we go. You can see the c his customized version of JSON file which you can use if you'd like and gives you

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a starting point. So at any rate, you might want to go check this one out. So the one I'm going

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to talk about real briefly here is the other one which is

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going to talk about is hidden gems plugin. And this one is really kind of

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cool. I really kind of like how this one works. It helps you dig up plugins that are got few installs and other options

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with it. Again, files for that are contained up on GitHub. So, you'll have

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to go download it from GitHub and then upload it and install it to your WordPress website. That I'm not going to

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be going into. Okay.

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And in my dev site under added plugins, I have added it all up there. And what it

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does for you when you go to add new plugins, you've got your usual featured ones, which are limited to what

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WordPress says you have. Now, if you use the other plugin, the plug-in curator, I

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think it replaces the featured. Yes, it it replaces the featured with your

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recommendations for plugin here. Uh, then of course you've got the usual popular one, which is pretty close to

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the same ones as the ones they feature. Looks like it's mildly changing. recommended ones which of course okay

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it's the recommended defeat which are almost favorites which if you have a

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WordPress.org or username account and you save your own list of feature

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plugins and toss that username in here and get the favorites from

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not sure if it works else I haven't used that in years I had built up a really nice

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my account then you've got the hidden gems one and it comes up and first loads

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up some random ones until you start to sort and what it did was it searched for

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any that had less than 100k installs, any star rating, and sorted by the

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newest in here. So, these are newest ones in here. Let's see. Take a look at

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got here. Um, 19 minutes ago. So, this plugin was just released into the

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WordPress world. Last updated 19 minutes ago. Um

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autocomplete address plugin completing addresses

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here. Oh, Woo Commerce. So at any rate, you can use it for

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finding all kinds of interesting plugins that don't exist normally such as digital

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a mailer audit wave SEO. Audit wave SEO. Okay, so

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added zero day. Yeah, these are all the newest zero days ago. These are all

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brand new into the WordPress repo. And once upon a time, there used to be a tab for all these plugins that added into

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repo. So you could always go see what was new. That was one of the ways we used to showcase plugins on have to use

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this to dig out new plug use.

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On the whole, it's looking pretty fantastic. So, at any rate, it's a very simple plugin. You can use it to search

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for any terms you want. We'll go search for security plugins and pops up a whole

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bunch of underused security plugins. Drop it down.

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10,000 installs for gives us the same ones.

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my newest updated. There you go. There's a neat

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one. Guard dog security and sight lock. Super hidden gem. All right. Why did it

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get a super hidden? So, he's got a tag on here that tells you it's a super hidden gem and hidden gem. Take a quick

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look. Art dog is uh keep their installations clean and

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secure. talk here

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okay I would have to go through and read all this but like a interesting security plugin

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got 70 active installs of this plugin so nobody knows it exists got the other one here customer email verification for

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commerce this one could be very useful for people WP factory

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but customer email verification for Woo Commerce. So going to verify the I

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assume it's going to verify the email address in Woo.

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shows to uh recommend it out for a while until it's more installs. And of course,

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you have to go manually install this. It's not available through the WordPress repo. Got to go get it over at GitHub.

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take a midtow break,

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but keep you guys entertained. Play one of my

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even have m in the search for glory. Gone with them sacred rules of old. They

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went missing. Down highway 49.

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time. Preacher man discovered passed down from

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saint to sage. Like a kindhearted lover who's been lost on this stage went

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missing down Highway 49.

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[Music] Devil's at the crossroads sitting to his

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side. [Music] Come on now.

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[Music]

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Not saying they are the answer. Not saying they're right or wrong. I ain't no texting dancer or loser where I

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belong when missing down high 49. Highway 49.

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Devils at the crossroy [Music]

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and the trigger to see who done the crime. Captain pulled the trigger. Guess

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who's doing time? They went missing. Down high 49.

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Devil's at the crossroads. Is he yours or is he mine?

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Is he yours or is it mine? [Music]

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Don't claim to know your story. Don't even have mouth in our search for glory.

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Gone with them sacred rules of all we're missing.

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Down high 49.

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[Music] Devils at the crossroads sitting doing town.

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Devils at a crossroads. Joker doing fine.

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Justin doing [Music]

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There we go. We're back. Thanks everyone. It's mid- winter sun low on the horizon now.

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It's a nice sunny gorgeous here on southern Vancou. [Music]

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Always nice when the sun comes back out. All right, let's see where I've got. I

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don't have much else. That pretty much covers up what we're wanted to showcase in today's show. Um, I wanted to, you

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know, mention a couple of others. You know, you might want to, if you're not following him already, go follow, um,

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uh, Icon Nick Icon Nick. Go call, go follow

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Nick. Nick is his name. Go follow him on, uh, Twitter. working really hard to me people. Now,

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Nick gets a lot of attention, but then he's a pretty bus fellow and he's he's

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put out a lot of uh decent plugins other

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weeks last couple of months. He's So, another

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one little underrated, nobody really follows them. Um, you know, go give them

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some love. They've only got 320 followers. WP Security Ninja. They have

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a lot they put out a lot of really good security tips for managing your website.

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I also did an interview with them way back. Go dig through our archives to find it.

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So, go check them out. If you know anyone you want to recommend, send them

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to me. We'll make sure they get into the show notes and showcase the different people. We're trying really hard to

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surface the hidden gems of WordPress, underutilized, the people who have been

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uh sidelined or sent off to the to the benches for lack of a better term. Right

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now, I can go back to about 10 years ago with this show.

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Wish I could remember it, but I had I had showcased 12 years ago. It showcased

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a me that was brand new, hot off the present would have wiped the face of

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every membership existed at the time and I imagine if they kept growing they

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would be the number one problem was is he didn't have a very

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good he wasn't he's like me not very good at the politics

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dealing with all the and He managed to off probably the same

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I pissed off and uh they sidelined him and he kept trying so hard and I did my

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best to showcase the stuff on my but then one day him and I were emailing

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back he says you know what I'm going to go get a job doing something else I'm not

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he walked away from I don't know if he ever came back to coding but it was a

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shame to lose that kind of talent because of the politics of

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or forums. That's where what going to look for forums in WordPress

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more than just the plugins and other things.

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And from my own personal experience, there's some jerks there and they are not forgiving at all. Even when you try

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to make amends, they are like they get on their high go. And there's still people that about the ways they've

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been treated in it, which is a shame. And that just goes with the whole

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system. At any rate, that's my little rant for

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the end here and how when we had that article about Matt talking about how to

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improve WordPress, the best way he can improve WordPress is start by improving on the organization

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volunteers and semi-paid volunteers. He

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Oh, well, no apologies at all, Hemdian. Hey, look, you you're holding on to the number one

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crown right now. This gives you the opportunity to completely steal that crown from Amber because it's based upon

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a cumulative score. I've figured out because of one show that I popped into

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from time make a couple of comments and all of a sudden I've got the I've got a cr I've got the number one crown and

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there's lots of other people coming. some reason I frown with only a few.

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Well, hopefully it gets you well. At any rate, this is really all I've got. Um,

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I've managed to push this show to a whole 48 minutes today and by the time I wrap it up, we might even be pushing 50

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minutes. But, thank you everyone for showing up. And for those of you that showed up late to the show, the reason

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you're listening to my voice and my voice alone is because Amber has gone, they wouldn't even tell us where they

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were going for their honeymoon. They're just saying, "We're leaving. We're going off the grid. They're unplugging their devices." So, they're hiding somewhere

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uh where nobody really knows where they've gone. They they just vanished. Oh, good for them. Anyway, and it was a

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really great wedding. For those that want to see Amber's wedding, you can go to lynoverall

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wedding.com and that's ln. Go check out their website which I'll be

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putting up a whole deal that I took later tomorrow. But the

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live stream, we live stream her wedding, friends and family that couldn't make it. And for anyone else in the world

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that wants to enjoy a good Celtic Scandinavian wedding, what it was Celtic Scandinavian

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wedding. Go check it out, folks. It's a really cool thing. And that's really all I've

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got today. So to push this and uh say thanks for showing up.

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We will talk at you next week. Next week I am doing an interview show. I who I am

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a list of come on brain. Where's my brain? I have

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a brain there that's supposed to be making comments for me.

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Oh, are they resolved in alphabetical order? Well, never because I I but I

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don't think her username is Amber. Something else cancelled an M. So,

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if it's her username.

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All right. So, anyway, I do have an interview next week and I can't find my listing.

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Tune in next week. That one won't work. Um, and listen to

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the interview. It should be a good one. I always do a nice job of preparing for the with that being said,

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we're going to uh close out the show with a little bit of music and we'll talk to you guys next week.

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Time stands still.

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A quarter after midnight and I'm watching the wall.

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Sometimes I feel so uptight. I just can't sleep at all.

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Every day doing the same old thing. We're losing time.

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The weekend comes. We got to have some fun and rewind.

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These are the days of thunder. We're going to make time stand still. We

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got to feel the hunger hanging over the edge just to taste the thrill.

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I feel the rope tightening, choking off our air.

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We need to grab some lightning. Friday's almost here.

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Caught in a web. We need to cut this thread. We're hanging by.

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Where is it? said you have to be half dead to survive.

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These are the days of thunder. We're going to make time stand still. We

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got to feel the hunger hanging over the edge just to taste the thrill.

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[Music]

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These are the days of thunder. We're going to make time stand still. We

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got to feel the hunger. Hanging over the edge just to taste the thrill. These are

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the days of thunder. We're going to make time stand still. We

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got to feel the hunger hanging over the edges to taste the thrill.

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These are the days of thunder.

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All righty, folks. That's all I've got. Take care now. Bye-bye. Oh my god, that is amazing.

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Oh no.